I know that for a fact, because even when the girls and I came back and wrote our last two albums, I feel that's the best work I've ever done. Although they're not as successful because we're in a different time and a different climate, different stages in our lives. It feels more rich and it feels more of a success to me, personally, from a creative point of view.
From a band perspective, the girls and I were all friends first and foremost before working. Our journey going like this was very much due to our personal relationships. At that young age and with that much success, trying to separate and differentiate our friendship and our business relationship was just too much. Our journey has been rocky but we understand totally now that our friendship comes first. I wish that somebody had said to us back then. Everybody just kind of sat back and got their tea, got their popcorn and fucking let us tear our relationship to shreds. If somebody had said to our younger selves, 'You need to split the two up, only for what's on record not for our relationship, because it's made us stronger than ever. I wish that had been different because of what's on record. It's funny because it's two different things. Back then it was more success but, I feel, less quality in what we were doing. Whereas now, it's less successful, but I prefer the quality in what we're doing, we all do It makes me feel great. I didn't go to university and I didn't do anything. Things like The Ivors, you know, that for me is my passion and it makes it all worthwhile. This is my graduation, and this is my everything in terms of learning and education. I feel so blessed to still be writing and still love what I'm doing, still working with talented people that teach me.
Michelle: Which Black writers or producers do you feel have made the most moves over the years in terms of influencing UK sound?
Shaznay: Labrinth. As a producer, the quality in his production and the sounds that he makes, he's a bit like what I said to you earlier how I would love, back in the day, to fill just beats and fill them with backing vocals, melodies and harmonies, all this kind of stuff. To me those were the musical instruments that were needed to make a track.
I feel like he does the same with instruments and does it so well, does it so well. Just off the top of my head as a UK producer/ artist, and what he's done on Euphoria. I saw the trailer for that series, but it was the music that I could hear behind it that made me want to watch it. I just respect him so much and I just think he's so talented.
Shaznay: Caron Wheeler and I loved that whole Soul II Soul movement. Soul II Soul were a big injection for British music for sure.
Michelle: Yes, I do know what you mean. Like you said, there's Michelle: Any females who would you think of? richness to it.
Shaznay. Back then it was so busy and I don't think it felt very peaceful. Even when you met me back then you probably were getting half of me. It's a shame. Back then I just wasn't really present, because there was just so much going on.
Michelle: Yes, I totally know what you mean.
Michelle: So what's next for you?
Shaznay: I just want to keep writing and just to keep getting better. You're forever learning and you're forever improving. It
Shaznay. I always loved the things that you were doing anyway. can never become dull and it can never become mundane. It The love and respect has always been there.
Michelle: Yes, but it's that thing isn't it? When you admire somebody then you also question what you can bring to the table. So, I've been asking about people of influence and people who contributed to the UK sound over the last three decades. Your name is one of those names that comes up. How do you feel about that?
Shaznay. It's an honour really. I think because I'm quite quiet and private. I think when you have those attributes in a world like this you can, not fade into the background but, yes, because I'm not out there singing and dancing, and kicking up the dust. I write and I come out when I've got something to sell, or I go home back to my hole and scream at my kids, and I'll give it to my husband over the heating. I feel really honoured, because at the end of the day I've been in the game a little while now and I love what I do. It makes me so happy to know that people enjoy it, admire it or respect it took me a little while to understand that Michelle: If you had one piece of advice that you could share with an upcoming songwriter, what would it be? Shaznay. I think the best thing you can do is just to learn your craft. I think, in this day and age, if you can actually master your craft before you even bring it to a label, or present it to anybody I think that would be the most beneficial thing you could do for yourself, definitely. The minute you get into this game and you start getting pushed here, there and everywhere, you know, it's gone. That's 100 percent what I wish I could go back and do all day long.
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