Carla Marie Williams has written hits for some of the world's biggest artists, from Kylie to Girls Aloud, The Saturdays, Alesha Dixon and even Britney Spears.
The founder of Girls I Rate, a movement that pushes for change and creates opportunities for young women in creative industries, Carla Marie uses her experience and wisdom to develop and empower the next generation.
Guest Editor Michelle Escoffery caught up with Carla to talk about launching Girls I Rate, taking up the space as a Black woman in the industry and overcoming barriers.
Michelle: I wanted to speak to you regarding your journey, and just how you came to create Girls | Rate, and why you felt that was necessary. But let's start with your connection to music, and what brought you into the music industry? Carla Marie: My mum started working at this community gathering place called Bridge Park Complex in Stonebridge. Back in the day, everybody did singing classes there. A man called Stephen Cole used to teach singing to the olders in the area and I told my mum I wanted to have lessons. She was like, 'Okay, and go and ask' He kind of took me under his wing, took me to Italia Conti, and during the six-week holidays, to the classes that he was teaching.
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'We've got to work harder, you know. We haven't got time for excuses, because if we're going to really sit at these tables and really say we're adding value, then we've got to add value for real, not just because we're women and we're of colour.'
Whilst doing that, I saw an article in The Voice about a competition called 'Hal Jackson's Talented Teens. You could win the chance to go to America to sing in the Apollo in Harlem and I was like, 'Oh my God, that's me. That's me. I ended up winning the competition and actually performed at the Apollo.
I lost one of my shoes, so I couldn't wear one of my outfits and lost points, but I still came in the top 10. I started college when I got back from America and I went for an audition at Italia Conti to join a girl group. I sang for this man at The Dorchester, and he ended up being the manager of Wet Wet Wet. He loved my voice and asked me to join the group. So, I told my parents and they were like, 'Who's this man now?' I said, 'It's this thing. They want me to go to Scotland to live. They were like, 'Scotland?' I was only 16.
So they flew my mum and dad over to see where we were going to live. He lives in a penthouse, so my mum and that saw it. My mum was quite a strict Jamaican. She didn't really believe in music like that. It was like, 'Learn your book, and then you can do music!
Michelle: Do you agree that diversity isn't just about gender or race or disability; it's also about background and class and where you come from?
Carla Marie: 150 percent. You know that saying, 'You can take