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CONSTANT NOISE
Teesside noise outfit Benefits made an explosive debut with Nails—a furious collision of abrasive electronica amongst aggro spoken word, ripping into the rising tide of toxic nationalism in Brexit Britain.
Led by Kingsley Hall and Robbie Major, the ever-shifting collective now returns with Constant Noise, a bold dive into '90s beats, indie sleaze, and ambient electronica.
The album sees them team up with Zera Tønin of electro-pop provocateurs Arch Femmesis on lead single “Land of the Tyrants” and indie royalty Peter Doherty for "Relentless."
We caught up with Kingsley and Robbie to chat about their new direction, recording process, and why you should never write songs for Zane Lowe.
Benefits have now been whittled down to just two members. What prompted this move and how has it affected the band's dynamic?
Kingsley: It's not by design. It's not like some Machiavellian plan or anything like that. Benefits, essentially, is just me and Robbie, and looking back, it always has been.
When the pandemic hit, we weren't allowed to leave our house other than to go out for our one walk a day or go to the shops, or whatever the fuck it was; we didn't have the outlet to get together anymore. So, we had to find our own solution to that problem for a psychological release. Despite the fact that you're sitting in your loft eating baked beans and stuff, thinking vodka was a cure for COVID ―which wasn't a clever thing.
Eventually, we started sending each other electronic music and spoken word stuff. That's kind of the embryo of what we wanted it to be. So, in a way, what we've become now is just us going back to the original idea.
Benefits / Constant Noise
Has it streamlined the sound at all?
Robbie: I think in some ways it has, because the recordings that we did for the last album-a lot those were done remotely. I would send ideas between me and Kingsley, so it was sort of a progression of that. On Constant Noise everything that's on the album that I've recorded has been done in this room.
Whereas when I get to a studio, I just shit myself. You just think, "Everything I'm doing is costing money, and everything I'm doing is shit." Whereas when you're just in your house, it's free. The only time wasted is Kingsley's time when he's got to listen to ten minutes of unlistenable noise, but he's quite happy doing that.
Kingsley: I don't think we're musicians. Robbie, obviously, is very good at playing synthesisers and making noise and playing the violin, but we're not proper musicians, and I think we use that to our advantage where we can. And I know that'll piss off people who make real music because we don't do that.
We've done the whole sitting in grotty practice rooms, smoking endless amounts of cigarettes, listening to the same fucking song for two hours, and then loading everything back in the car and going home. We just haven't got the patience anymore to do that. Now, Robbie will send me an email on a Thursday afternoon, and I'll go, "That's pretty good," write some lyrics to it, and then it'll be done by Friday. And if I think it's shit, I just delete it.
It sounds like you've had the opposite experience to the difficult second album trap. Removing all those things that might cause imposter syndrome, stressful or financially expensive. You've just said "Fuck that. This is us!” and you've been able to completely focus.
Robbie: The imposter syndrome is still very much there. But I think that's there with everyone, isn't it? If you haven't got that, then you're probably a deluded maniac.
Financially, we've still spent all the money, even though we don't have any big costs. Everything's still very expensive, even with a no- frills way of doing it.
Kingsley: James Welsh and James Brown have been invaluable to creating this as well. They understand our way of working. They have become collaborators, and we've never even been in the same room together. They're virtual collaborators, in that sense. With the second album thing, you've got to understand that, as successful as the first record was with critical acclaim in certain circles (because I know in other circles it was derided)—we're still not a massive band, we're not a big deal. So, we haven't got to appease a huge audience that would be expecting a certain product.