02_April 1978
APPICE:
As I prepared myself for an interview with Carmine Appice, it seemed hard to believe that it had been ten years since his first appearance on record with Vanilla Fudge. Even then he was a drummer to be reckoned with. His influence on drummers in the 60's was considerable. Since the Vanilla Fudge, Carmine has anchored Cactus, Beck/Bogart and Appice, and KGB. Now he is the driving force behind Rod Stewart. We met at a Ludwig Drum Clinic presented by the Long Island Drum Shop in North Merrick, New York. The clinic was held around the corner at a firehouse and it was like old home week for Long Islander Carmine, as he was besieged by well-wishers, former students and autograph seekers. Three other musicians had been called to form a pick-up band, and after Carmine was introduced, the band kicked off with a jazz-rock jam. Appice was in rare form. He breezed through the jam in 4/4, and then through a demonstration in 7/8, 9/8 and 6/8. His use of Polyrhythms, dynamics and space were as good as any of the more popular drummers known for their jazz-rock drumming. After the clinic, Carmine invited me to his parents home in Brooklyn to do the interview. My first question was in regard to his practice routine. "I try to teach about six hours a week. That's the only way I get to practice. I'm so busy that it's hard to just sit down and practice. I force myself by teaching. I used to practice about an hour and a half a day with books, and at least two hours just playing with people. Whenever I'm home, I call my students up and say, 'Okay, if you want to come, I can put you in here or there! and we get it together. They understand that I travel and they take it for what it is." Carmine uses a unique right hand grip, holding the stick between his index and middle fingers rather than the thumb and index finger. "I hold it that way primarily to twirl the stick. That's the way it came about. It also helps when your hand sweats. It's a better grip between those two fingers, where there's a lot of pressure. This way the stick can't run away. When I'm playing loud, I use this grip about 75%
LEADIN' THE WAY by SCOTT KEVIN FISH of the time because, I'm always twirling." Carmine named
Rich, Joe Morello, Philly Jo Jones, Louie Bellson, Bernard Purdie, Billy Cobham and Lenny White as influences. He claimed to have known every lick off of Max Roach's records at one time, and by coincidence, he had plans to see the Max Roach Quintet at Storyville the very evening of this interview. Bearing in mind the ability of Max and others to play great drums without 'flash', why shouldn't a rock drummer remain relatively deadpan on stage without 'tricks'? Is showmanship essential to playing rock drums? "Not only that. The type of music Max plays is a lot lighter than my music. My music is a full force body effort. You've got to put your whole body and soul into it in order to get the power behind it. Year's ago, I used to sit there just like Max, and do all these things and not even blink an eye. Then when I joined Vanilla Fudge, I played louder and I realized I had to put more effort into it." There had been some reservation in Carmine's mind about j o i n i n g the Rod Stewart band, basically because he wanted to play progressive. After Stewart had unsuccessfully auditioned twenty-five drummers, Carmine's wife convinced him to give it a try. "At the first rehearsal they were playing all of Rod's songs with a Chick Corea flavor on drums. It was ridiculous. They were calling me The Dentist,' for fill-ins." In the end, Rod and Carmine came to a mutual understanding. If Carmine would play like he did with Cactus behind Stewart's vocals, he would get his own solo at concerts, thereby not cramping his style or disappointing his own fans. The Rod Stewart band has been getting rave reviews all over the world, and both Stewart and Appice are quick to point out that this is a band and not a group of musicians backing up a lead singer. Everybody in the band gets a chance to shine. "I made the drums polls in England for the first time. Number five. You've got to be in a big group, a steady group, to make the polls. Or be a solo artist. I'm not really a solo artist yet, but I'm not just a band member either. I'm in limbo, and I hope my new solo album takes me out of that limbo. We have a few record labels interested. I've got Max Middleton playing on it. Verdine White, from Earth, Wind