04_October 1978
I DON'T PLAY TO BE AN INFLUENCE ON ANYONE. I FEEL A RESPONSIBILITY TO THE MUSIC I PLAY. LET'S SAY, BEING RESPONSIBLE TO THE MUSIC IS THE FIRST STEP IN ACCEPTING RESPONSIBILITY FOR PEOPLE COMING UP."
The band has a really unique sound. The music is very relaxed. We don't force the music to get tense, it just gains momentum by itself. And everybody gets a chance to play. AW:
Does the fact that the band uses two drummers ever get in your way or cause any problems musically? SG:
Well, I wouldn't want to play with two drummers all the time, but sometimes it's fun. When we do it for a long time, you have to make some changes. You can't play all the things you'd like to play. You can do it during a solo, but other than that, you really have to lock in with the other drummer. At first it was awkward, but we're used to it and comfortable with it now. We knew how it felt when the band had one drummer, but after playing with two for awhile, we just couldn't do it with one. AW:
Did you and Chris (Parker) initially work out who would play solos and who would play rhythm? SG:
No. We trade solos. Sometimes I'll play light time and Chris solos, or he'll play time and I'll solo. We listen, and try not to get in anybody's way. The band sounds like a very simple combination, but that simplicity is one of the hardest things to accomplish. To leave out unnecessary notes and still build a good foundation. AW:
How did the whole thing start?
Well, the band was working at a club called "Mikells" in New York. I was living upstate in Woodstock at the time, but I was in town three days a week and I would stop by. The band wasn't even known as Stuff back then; it was just some guys getting together and playing. Chris was playing steady with the band and one night I asked Chris and Gordon if I could play. From then on Chris and I started alternating nights. The band started to become well-known even before we had a record deal. It wasn't planned . . . it just happened. AW:
Stuff obviously isn't a living for you. Your living is made in the studios, is it not? SG:
It's a combination of all the things I'm doing. In order for one thing to be a living, it has to be set up right, business wise. That's being worked on now.
There's a myriad of people out there who make a living recording and playing tours. Do you think that could happen for Stuff? SG:
Yes, I do. I think the band has a great potential. I think it has a future in concerts, along with a lot of other possibilities. We performed in Japan recently and did very well. AW:
Do you think the addition of a lead singer would make the band even more popular? SG:
I think the band has gone over well by itself and behind other people. They're all guys who have experience in the studio and they know when not to overplay.
Do you want to stay in studio work? Do you ever get the desire to go out on the road and play? SG:
Actually I get a chance to do a little bit of both right now. I'm doing dates, live playing and record promotion tours. I've done some things with Mike Manieri and David Spinozza. David opens for Carly Simon and right there are two very different types of playing. AW:
Some of the best playing I heard you do was with Steve Kahn's band when you opened for Maynard Ferguson. SG:
When you're in the studio as much as I am, you don't often get a chance to do that kind of thing. A lot of people don't get a chance to hear you. Not every situation gives you the same opportunity to stretch out. The music was good and the whole thing was well put together. I can have fun laying back and playing too, as long as the music makes sense. AW:
When you do a show for people like Paul Simon, Carly Simon or Stuff, do you ever find yourself thinking you have to be more structured as opposed to when you're playing with someone like Steve Kahn, who lets you stretch out more? SG:
On Paul's tour, some of the things we did were tunes he'd recorded before with other people. I played on his new album and when we did it, everybody put their heads together and Paul kind of guided it. Everybody contributed to the things we did in the studio, so I didn't have to go in and copy someone else. With Steve, the concert was structured like some of the things we had done on the album. Naturally, some people allow you more