So Young Issue Fifty-Seven
J: It's funny because we've been doing it for so long that when you get asked a question about the scene now you're like fuck, I'm really not in a position to answer this anymore. I'm not really right in there like I used to be. It's really fun to watch people do really well and to be proud of how we've done off of it. We were at the Fontaines show at Finsbury Park and we saw Been Stellar, Kneecap, Amyl, and Fontaines and I think we'd played with all of them. If not Amyl, then we've definitely hung out with them and been friends with them for a while. So it's really awesome to see these bands play to so many people and to share a journey with them. In terms of it being a scene, it's bigger than comprehension at this point. When we started there were not really many bands in London at all. And since then, its grown and grown and grown. It's funny how you get used to it and it stops being surreal, even though it is still surreal. I think it's cool that it's still growing somehow. And we're supporting Fontaines and reaping the benefits of that!
E: As far as it goes in terms of bands like Fontaines, fully, legitimately seeping into the mainstream I think it's fucking awesome. I can't help but feel pride and happiness for those guys, and it's nice to see something genuinely cool and innovative at that level, rather than stuff we've seen in the past. It's been great to see, and I couldn't wish for it to happen to a better band. Not just to focus on them, but the fact that that kind of thing is getting astronomically popular these days fills me with confidence.
Because at the start it was you, Goat Girl, Dead Pretties etc.
E: Sorry as well.
J: We have a So Young issue somewhere with that exact list of bands. And at that point you really had to search. When we started we were playing in the same room as the Fat Whites, and bands like Childhood and King Krule, but they were all older and the only way we could find bands our age was like 'do you remember that guy we met at a party two years ago, he drums in a band and they're our age!'. And that was Fish who are now Sorry. And then some of their friends start playing shows and it starts from there.
And similarly, Goat Girl just had some demos online and they went to Eddie and Charlie's school, so we asked if they'd be up for playing a show together. Instead of it being this well of loads of people playing gigs all the time.
What do you think has changed?
J: It sounds like a simplification of it, but it got cool to be in a band again. When we started what was fun about it, and it's still fun obviously, but what felt really fun for us was that people we knew made fun of us for playing in a band.
E: It was a big piss taking centrepiece
J: It was like what are you guys, the arctic monkeys? In 2014 it just didn't really exist in the way it does now and it was fun because it felt like a weird thing we were doing and it seems like not many other people were doing it.
E: It was when we did it, people started thinking it was cool!
Finally, someone described 'Food For Worms' as the Lamborghini of Shame albums.
E: That was a very well-orchestrated marketing ploy!
But if 'Cutthroat' had to be a car, what car would it be?
E: I know precisely fuck all about cars, so I'll pass over to Josh on this one.
J: You're asking the only person worse than you! I think what we can say is that we were wrong and that this album makes that Lamborghini look like a Ford Fiesta.
E: This is the Noddy Car of Shame records.
J: It's the Ford something or other with your family in it because you're all going to make great memories.
E: Couldn't have put it better myself.