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July 1978 - Modern Drummer - Ed Shaughnessy

By Modern Drummer

03_July 1978

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Sep 28, 2026
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Oct 2, 2026
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  • ED SHAUGHNESSY by Rob CookEd Shaughnessy has been playing drums since he was 14 years old in his native New Jersey. By 19, he was working with George Shearing at New York's Three Deuces. He's performed with the New York Philharmonic, the NBC and Pittsburgh Symphony, and the big bands of Count Basie, Duke Ellington, Tommy Dorsey, and Oliver Nelson. Today. Ed is one of the most in-demand drum set clinicians in the music world. He is most widely known for his resident gig with the Doc Severinsen NBC Orchestra on the Johnny Carson Tonight Show where he's in his fourteenth year as a regularly featured instrumentalist. Shaughnessy also works with Doc's band, his own band Energy Force, and does numerous recordings and clinics. This interview was conducted while Ed was in Michigan for a drum clinic. MD:
  • Page 5SWINGER ON STAFF by having two bass drums you can get twice as much of one sound. But I get two very different sounds. It's much hipper for rock to have the power on the right foot off-beat, and complement it on the other foot. It gets me in the feel of the sound. Ml): How about your cymbal set-up?
  • Page 6"DRUMMERS WHO GO THROUGH STICKS AND HEADS ARE PLAYING WRONG. IF THEY PLAY INTO THE DRUM WITH A DOWNWARD DRIVE, INSTEAD OF PULLING THE SOUND OUT OF THE DRUM, THEY'RE NOT ONLY GOING TO BREAK EQUIPMENT, BUT CHOKE OFF THE SOUND, AS WELL." This gets the sound close enough so you don't drown it out with the drums, but you still hear your instrument as it really sounds. This sort of practice, and of course practice with live musicians whenever possible, makes for better ensemble players.
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SWINGER ON STAFF by having two bass drums you can get twice as much of one sound. But I get two very different sounds. It's much hipper for rock to have the power on the right foot off-beat, and complement it on the other foot. It gets me in the feel of the sound. Ml):

How about your cymbal set-up?

I t depends on the s i t u a t i o n . A typical set-up is a pair of 15" hi-hats, a couple of 18" medium-thin crashes, and a 22" ride. I'll also use 14" hi-hats. I like a couple of 20" mini-cup rhythm cymbals for recording. They're very distinct and don't build up so you lose the ride sound. I use a Rock 21" for live work. It's a dynamite cymbal, very powerful. MD:

Let's talk about miking for a moment. Do you place the mikes, or do you work with the engineer on placement? KS:

M i c r o p h o n e placement is left strictly to the engineer. He knows his room and the sound he's going for. Sometimes, in the studio, I get the feeling they're miking my nose. There can be anywhere from two to ten mikes on the outfit. MD:

How about the Carson show?

Three mikes. The 24" bass is miked. There's also a mike between the snare and the hi-hat, and an overhead. The overhead is an AKG Condenser. The other two are Shure mikes.

THERE IS REALLY NO ACCEPTABLE SUBSTITUTE FOR A GOOD TEACHER. YOU MIGHT GET YOURSELF THERE SOONER OR LATER ON YOUR OWN, BUT WHATEVER YOU LEARN THAT'S GOOD, YOU COULD'VE LEARNED A LOT FASTER WITH A TEACHER."